Curse

blue.rellik · Oct 13, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by Aethon

Grind is still grind, there's just less of it now.

It's like if someone keeps punching you, you think they're not nice. But then they slow down the punching and you think, "Wow, this is great because he isn't punching me as much as he could!"

There's a difference between getting your kidney mashed in and gaining benefits towards GW2

Hyper Cutter · Oct 13, 2007, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310

WTB completed Hard mode Hero Book - 20k

Make them account customized (which apparently they can do now)?

Kakumei · Oct 13, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

edit: nevermind, i am partially mistaken. I need to do more research.

S_Serpent · Oct 13, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

<SARCASM>LOL

after the weekend most possible the book rewards will only be receiving half the points anymore. </END SARCASM>

Operative 14 · Oct 13, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

None the less, it is still a requirement for items in the game.

Until such time as I can go buy my glasses or whatever else my heart desires without having to work on a title I don't want, it will always be to much.

Cold Hearted Zero · Oct 13, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

None the less, it is still a requirement for items in the game.

Until such time as I can go buy my glasses or whatever else my heart desires without having to work on a title I don't want, it will always be to much.

lol its called work for what u want,

geez this so called grind in gw is absolute nth, look at other games and u will see what real grind is

Omnidragon42 · Oct 13, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

I'm sick of people complaining about the grind to max out the titles, in my opinion, maxed titles should require some grind, as they are meant for prestige, not something everyone should have by default. I enjoyed grinding my titles, even if it was a little tedious, I got Legendary Delver tonight, and should be getting Slayer of All tomorrow night. I'll take my time getting the Asura title, and I don't care about the Ebon Vanguard one. If you don't want to grind for the titles then don't. But don't come here and whine about it, I think we're all sick of reading it (and posts like this one too, so I'll shut up now).

EPO Bot · Oct 13, 2007, 09:47 AM // 09:47

People who complain about grind are usually the ones who used to have grotto armor at level 10.

Darkobra · Oct 13, 2007, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42

I got Legendary Delver tonight

Which didn't take you any grind at all! One can only wonder how you managed to get Legendary Delver tonight and tell others to stop crying about grinding...

Cacheelma · Oct 13, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by Karyuu

I wasn't aware that playing through the normal content of the game is considered "grinding" now.

You folks are bizarre.

Because you can get full (or enough to access all armor crafters) rep. for all races by JUST PLAYING THROUGH, amIrite?

FAIL, with nothing bizarre about it.

Jongo River · Oct 13, 2007, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Key point - even it were so simple, why is it fine to only have access to armour crafters *after* you've finished the last major part of Guild Wars 1? Is armour just for HoM filling now?

trielementz · Oct 13, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Once you complete the game you should come away with 40k points for NM quests, and 30k points for NM dungeons.

i got 20k faction for turning in the hero book. you've got the wrong figures i think.

anyhow, this is a *huge* improvement over the previous system.

freekedoutfish · Oct 13, 2007, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

Sorry, but this issue will never change for me, until game completion and title whoring stop being the primary way to get *any* armour set in GW:EN. Once I've finished, I'd only bloody see it on the character selection screen! A single set of endgame armour was fine in an ongoing campaign (with other options), but in the last gasp for GW1? Give me a break.

Are you actually complaining you have to complete the storyline to get access to something?

Sorry but OMG! 90% of games on the market ask you to atleast play them once before you unlock stuff!

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Originally Posted by Chthon

That's right, only another 90k of grinding to max the title. Yippee.

Sorry, but this thread = fail.

WoW yes.... your being asked to play the quests and/or dungeons again to earn more points. What wa Anet thinking? *slaps face*

Do it in Hard Mode then and earn even more points.

freekedoutfish · Oct 13, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by trielementz

i got 20k faction for turning in the hero book. you've got the wrong figures i think.

anyhow, this is a *huge* improvement over the previous system.

Have you noticed the update?

You get varied points depending on how many pages you have completed when you hand them in. 8 pages you get around 3k points NM and a full book you get 40k points NM.

Its more for HM and the same applies for dungeons.

You can also exchange them for experience points and gold (i think). Anet has once again made our lives very easy and people are still complaining.

=HT=Ingram · Oct 13, 2007, 11:45 AM // 11:45

lol good thing I had several books saved up. I knew this was going to happen, so it was well worth it... Asuran armor here I come. lol Just kidding I would never waste the gold on armor, But the extra power to pain inverter... that is worth it right there....

Kas · Oct 13, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Grind:
Everything.

The word grind can be used to describe simply everything in the game. This game and every single one on the planet. Because it doesn't matter how low you set the bar, there is allways some person to bitch and whine about the bar being too high for the simple sake of getting attention.
Remove all titles = cure for all? Nonsense. Many of you don't seem to have been playing in the early days. Back then some folks even bitched about having to do missions and regarded them as grind - on their first play through the game. Now you may say "lol, that's no grind, that's playing the game?!". Well to them it seemingly was enough grind to bitch and whine about it.
Now here we are again, saying "that's no grind, that's playing the game" and see who is the one crying a river now.

Yes, there is lots of Grind in Guildwars. In fact, it is 100% Grind, it is just that the perception of such differs from person to person. Removing the grind from Guildwars can only be achieved in one way: Shutdown the servers. Otherwise there will allways be some folks that want to have it even easier.

Speaking about Grind in comparison:
The Grind-O-Meter:
No Grind [...X.............................................. ...........] Korean Grind

So get a perspective.

Estic · Oct 13, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

You get varied points depending on how many pages you have completed when you hand them in. 8 pages you get around 3k points NM and a full book you get 40k points NM.

40k is for dungeon's. Hero handbook is 20k in normal mode. See: Click

Note that the dungeon book is above the hero book and not the other way around.

Kakumei · Oct 13, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

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Originally Posted by Kas

Grind is subjective.

I fully agree. I, personally, have experienced little to no "grind" throughout my time playing Guild Wars. Why? Haven't I played much? Haven't I gone for titles, earned reputation for armor, and all that? Yes, I have. But the key point here: I enjoyed it, thus not making it grind for me.

Why are you people playing a game or pursuing goals if you aren't having fun with it?

hallomik · Oct 13, 2007, 01:08 PM // 13:08

This might have been posted elsewhere, but my monk had already beaten the game and turned in her book a few weeks ago. I was a little bummed, but I bought a new one and found I just had to pay some gold to get it completely filled out again.

Thank you Anet.

Of course, I tried it again and had no luck with that.

Mitchel · Oct 13, 2007, 01:16 PM // 13:16

4 Completed HM Books + 10 K rep already = maxed title, you only need 3 quests and 800 gold for 8 pages. Hardly calling that grind.